Tekeekö kukaan / mikään firma projektorien kalibrointia Oulussa (tai ylipäätään täällä pohjoisemmassa)? Tuli päivitettyä kotiteatteriin uusi tykki (Sony VPL-XW5000) ja kiinnostais saada tuo kalibroitua ammattilaisen toimesta. Nopea Googletus kertoi että esim. Mareks tai Ideaali tarjoaa tuommoista palvelua, mutta kilometrikorvausten kanssa tulis hieman liikaa hintaa käyttää asentajaa Oulussa asti
Muutenhan tuollaisen kalibroinnin tekeminen on suht helppoa ja edullista tehdä itse, mutta kun laser-tykkien kanssa pitäisi olla astetta paremmat välineet, jotka maksaa. Oletko sitä perinteistä kokeillut, että netistä katsot asetuksia? Ja mitä testit sanovat oletusasetusten tarkkudesta? Jos testien perusteella ovat aika ookoo, niin kalibroimalla ei välttämättä edes normaali ihminen huomaa eroa.
Joo, oon kattonu etsiä. Audio Advicella oli todella hyvät ohjeet (https://www.audioadvice.com/blogs/expert-advice/sony-vpl-xw-home-theater-projector-setup-guide) mutta niillä on sivut rikki ja tuolta katos kaikki ne suositellut asetukset. Oon tässä odotellu, että josko ne sais päivitettyä ne takas tuonne. Ilmeisesti tuossa Sonyssa on heti tehtaalta lähteissä väriarvot todella lähellä napakymppiä, eli sen puoleen ei ole katastrofi vaikka niitä ei saiskaan hienosäädettyä ihan prikulleen. Mietin vaan, että kun nyt on tekemässä kotiteatteria ns. all-in periaatteella, niin ihan mielellään ois sen muutaman satkun vielä maksanut siitä että tykissä on varmasti ne värit niin hyvin kohdallaan, kun mahdollista.
Liekö Googlella enää vanhoja välimuistitallenteita tuosta? Joskushan noita googlesta sai ladattua, mutta en tiedä onko tuota ominaisuutta enää olemassa. Waybackmachine ei näyttänyt olleen tallentanut tuota sivua, kun äkkiä kokeilin. Joo, ymmärrän kyllä hyvin tuon, että mielellään ne värit saisi just kohdalleen. Itsekin voisin vaikka käväistä kaffea ja tykin ihmettelyä vastaan kalibroimassa tykin, mutta kun omat normimittarit eivät oikein osaa lukea kuvaa, kun erotuskyky ei ole tarpeeksi tarkka. Eli lasertykit käyttävät väreille paljon kapeampaa taajuuskaistaa kuin mitä perinteiset mittarit lukevat, mikä aiheuttaa virhettä. Sitten taas tuohon kykenevät mittarit ovat tuhansien eurojen hintaluokassa. Varmasti jostain päin Suomea löytyisi firma, jossa on nuo mittarit ja voihan heiltä kysyä, että jos käyvät Oulussa päin, niin jos samalla kävisivät kalibroimassa tykin. Muuten tuntuu, että ei palvelua ainakaan Oulun seudulta taida löytyä. Tosin ihan mutu tuo. Voihan se olla, että Oulussa jokin liike onkin... Ehkä mittarin voisi vuokrata jostain? Tiedä tosin onko niitäkään Oulussa.
Offtopic ja asian vierestä, mutta Internet Archive on ongelmissa, sitä on DDOSsattu ties kuinka kauan ja näyttää vasta nyt pikkuhiljaa palailevan normaaliin toimintaan, ettei kannata ihan just tän hetken tilanteen mukaan tehdä mitään pysyviä päätelmiä.
Pitääpä odotella että josko tuo aikakone vielä alkaisi toimimaan, ja kadonneet tiedot saisi kaivettua sieltä esiin. Kiitos kummalekin vinkeistä!
Kyllä toi sivu mulla toimii ihan normaalisti. Sisällöstä en osaa sanoa puuttuuko sieltä jotain, mutta ei sen latautumisen kanssa ole mitään ongelmia. Spoiler: Sivusto tekstimuodossa jos ei edelleenkään lataudu -- Sony VPL-XW Home Theater Projector Setup Guide -- If you are reading this, it is likely you are either a lucky new owner of a new Sony VPL-XW projector — or perhaps you are considering a Sony VPL-XW projector and wondering how the setup will go. For those of you who are new owners, congratulations! Sony 4K home theater projectors are pretty simple to install for someone with some basic DIY skills. There are some settings very deep in the expert menu that should be reserved for a professional calibrator. However, there are many things you can do when you install your projector that will make a big difference in its performance that only require some patience. Anyone doing a DIY installation should be capable of taking these steps. Getting our suggestions done right is actually a bigger deal than hiring a professional calibrator in our opinion. -- How To Install Your Sony Projector -- We suspect most of you will be mounting your new Sony on the ceiling. We like the fact that Sony projectors come preset to the front/ceiling mode so you can just mount it and start adjusting without having to look at a menu upside down. Audio Advice Pro Tip: There is a catch in using the menu in all front projectors and if this is your first one, you may not know it. The menu will not be visible unless you have a source plugged in. Be sure to plug some kind of source into your projector when you are initially setting things up and turn on that source. Make sure you have a way to solidly mount your projector to the ceiling. Using toggle bolts into sheetrock is not recommended. We also suggest you have a projector mount that allows you to adjust the level from both side to side and front to back. [Image: Sony Projector Image] -- Finding the Right Location -- Projectors all have what is called a throw distance spec. This is a minimum and maximum distance the particular model will be able to properly fill your screen. The Sony manuals are pretty cryptic when it comes to helping you figure out the correct range where your projector will properly fill the screen. The good news is Sony uses an Aspherical lens which means you get great performance at either end of the throw distance. We have tested all of the new Sony projectors in our internal testing lab and have found they all have the highest light output at the shortest end of their throw range. The good news about Sony lenses is that their light output falls off far less than other brands as you move them further back. The best way to find the right location is to use our projector throw distance tool. Simply choose your Sony model and follow the steps. The tool will show you the nits, which is an important factor for HDR content. If you are installing a 2.40 widescreen, be sure to select that aspect ratio option to see the correct throw distance ranges. PROJECTOR THROW DISTANCE CALCULATOR In most situations, placing your Sony closer to the screen will be the best option for the most light output. Audio Advice Pro Tip: When you are making your final measurements, remember the throw distance is the distance from the screen material to the front of the projector lens. You will also want to get the height of your projector in relation to the screen at the ideal position. In the perfect world, it would be dead centered on the screen, but that is usually not possible in a typical home theater. While Sony projectors do have lens shift, we highly recommend you get your projector perfectly centered left to right and keep the top of the lens height right at or below the height your screen material is off the floor. Also, be sure both your screen and projector are perfectly level. -- How To Adjust Sony Projector To Fit Screen -- Once you have your projector hung in the right spot, it’s time to get your image perfectly zoomed in and focused. While the Sony projector does have some patterns, we actually find it easiest to just put an image up on the screen. For a 16:9 screen, pull up a known 16:9 source. The Sony VPL-XW5000ES has manual knobs for shift and focus. We suggest you have a helper at the screen to tell you when you are perfectly focused or use a pair of binoculars. The Sony VPL-XW6000ES & VPL-XW7000ES models have motorized functions for zoom, shift, and focus. It is a good idea to first push the SHIFT button on your remote, then press RESET to just recenter everything. Then you use the ZOOM and SHIFT functions to make sure your image fills the screen from top to bottom and left to right. It is a good idea to have just a tiny bit spilling over into the black fabric around your screen. -- How To Set Sony Lens Memory -- All of the VPL-XW projectors except the VPL-XW5000ES have a lens memory. To set the lens memory, go to the Screen Memory selection of the menu, choose Picture Position, then store it under 1:85 or Custom 1. Make sure you select YES when it asks you to save. If you have a 2.35 or 2.40 screen, find a source in that ratio and follow the same process to get the image to fill the screen, leaving a tiny bit of overlap, and save those settings under 2.35 or Custom 2. Then use the Focus function to get the picture as sharp as possible. -- Sony Projector Panel Alignment -- During shipping, it is highly likely that the 3 panels in your Sony projector have gotten slightly out of alignment. This is the part that will make the biggest difference of anything you can do! It is a bit time-consuming, but in our opinion is well worth it. You will want to warm up your projector for at least 30 minutes before you start this. There is no need for your projector to have burned in at all though, you can do this right out of the box. Sony’s web guide has detailed instructions on how to do this. Be sure to use the zone settings and complete the steps for each color. Audio Advice Pro Tip: It is a tedious process and the best tip we can give you is to give your eyes a break as you are going to be staring at some bright white lines. We find if you’ll close your eyes for about 10-20 seconds before you go to the next zone, you’ll be able to focus better on the adjustments. This step usually takes 30-60 minutes, but is the best thing you can do for a great picture. -- Sony VPL-WX Setting Adjustments -- We have spoken extensively about properly setting up a Sony projector with the technical team at Sony. The good news is that your projector has several modes with different settings for various situations. For 95% of the home theater systems you would put a Sony projector in, Cinema Film 1 for SDR and Cinema Film 2 for HDR will give you the best results. Audio Advice Pro Tip: You will need to display an HDR source to the settings for HDR. After you have selected Cinema One Film, there are a few areas you will want to experiment with based on how large your screen is and how much ambient light is in your room. The really great thing about the new X1 Processor for projectors is it lets you set different settings for both SDR and HDR content. To access these settings you will need the correct type of content playing through the projector. In other words, to adjust SDR, you will need an SDR source and for HDR, you will need an HDR source playing. This means you will need to make the adjustments we suggest twice, once for each type of content. * Sony projectors have quite a lot of adjustments you can access. Some of them that are deep in the expert settings should only be changed by a professional calibrator. We do not recommend you make adjustments in the color correction section you will find under the expert menu where you can access the different levels for red, green, and blue.
Nimenomaan sisällössä on puutteita. Siellä oli vielä pari viikkoa sitten sivun pohjalla pitkä lista niitä suositeltuja asetuksia (joita ei siellä enää näy). Laitoin tuosta sivuston Help Chatiin viestiä, ja sieltä kommentoitiin että viime viikolla tehdyn päivityksen jälkeen ollut teknisiä haasteita ja osa sivujen sisällöstä on kadonnut.